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Pole concrete covers two jobs: precast concrete poles for power lines and fences, and concrete poured round a timber, steel or concrete post to hold it in the ground. For the second, Tarmac's Blue Circle Postcrete data sheet asks for a hole three times wider than the post and gives a setting time of 5 to 10 minutes.

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Pole concrete: poles or posts set in concrete

People searching for pole concrete want one of two things. Some are buying concrete poles — precast columns that carry power lines or hold fence wire. Others need to fix a pole in concrete: a gatepost, a washing-line post or a fence post set in a concrete footing. This page covers both, each from a manufacturer’s own figures.

Precast concrete poles

A precast pole is cast in a mould at a plant, cured, and delivered whole. The trade magazine Crown Publications reported on such poles from Rocla, a South African precast maker, which load-checked an 11 m cast concrete pole rated at 8 kN against the South African pole code SANS 470.

Rocla lists the benefits of concrete over timber poles: no maintenance, a better fire rating, and less theft, because broken concrete has no resale value.

How a pole’s load is rated

The Rocla test shows how pole ratings work. Each figure is a sideways pull applied 300 mm below the tip:

How a pole’s load is rated
Rating Meaning 11 m – 8 kN pole
Ultimate load the load the pole must support 8 kN
Working load ultimate load divided by the safety factor of 2.5 3.2 kN (our calculation: 8 ÷ 2.5)
Proof load 10% above the working load 3.52 kN (our calculation: 3.2 × 1.1)

At proof load the testers measure deflection, the widest crack and the permanent set after the load is released, and note the load at which the first hairline crack appears. The pole in the article then went on to carry 10 kN without collapsing. How steel and concrete share load in general is covered under reinforced concrete.

Setting a pole in concrete

For fence and gate posts, ready-mixed post-fixing concrete removes the mixing step. Tarmac’s Blue Circle Postcrete data sheet gives these steps for timber, metal and concrete posts:

  1. Dig a hole three times wider than the post and as deep as one-third of the fence height above ground.
  2. Fill the hole with water to a third of its depth.
  3. Pour the dry mix evenly round the post until no standing water shows, then sprinkle water on top.
  4. Position and level the post; it sets in 5 to 10 minutes.
  5. Cover the top with soil once set. Fence panels can go on after the first 10 minutes.

Our worked example: for a fence 1.8 m high, the hole is 0.6 m deep (1.8 ÷ 3); for a 10 cm post, 30 cm wide (10 × 3).

How much mix a post needs

The data sheet gives quantities in 20 kg bags for each post and hole size. A selection:

How much mix a post needs
Post Hole (width × depth) 20 kg bags
round, 5 cm 15 × 30 cm 1/4
round, 5 cm 15 × 60 cm 1/2
square, 7.5 cm 15 × 45 cm 1/3
square, 10 cm 20 × 60 cm 3/4
square, 10 cm 30 × 60 cm 2

Where the quick mix is not enough

Tarmac limits Postcrete to domestic posts: fences, decking, rotary washing lines and small to medium gateposts for gates under 1.0 m wide. It is not for general concreting, screeds, mortar or render, and not where a specified compressive strength is required. Where a footing needs a specified strength, it is mixed from cement and graded aggregates to a design instead.